god belief
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Re: God Belief
Funny thing, if you scroll down to the 'similar threads' you'll find one with the title:
"does anyone have any videos of girls just getting drilled beyond belief":1orglaugh
Funny thing, if you scroll down to the 'similar threads' you'll find one with the title:
"does anyone have any videos of girls just getting drilled beyond belief":1orglaugh
With all due respect to those that believe in such things;
I think all major religions are a complete and total waste of time. And I believe they have caused FAR more misery and lives then they have ever saved.
How many tens of millions of humans have been killed or condemned and lives torn assunder (not to mention thousands and thousands of molested children) all because of some unproveable entity has judged them to be bad (or in the case of molested children - some stupid, fucking loser finds the only way he can get power and prey on the weak for his depraved desires).
And if I were running the World, I would remove charities as tax exempt organizations immediately, except those branches of them that help the poor, the needy, etc. (like the Salvation Army). Otherwise, if a religion cannot make it on it's own, let it die.
Religion is for the weak and/or the ignorant and/or the desperate.
I think all major religions are a complete and total waste of time. And I believe they have caused FAR more misery and lives then they have ever saved.
How many tens of millions of humans have been killed or condemned and lives torn assunder (not to mention thousands and thousands of molested children) all because of some unproveable entity has judged them to be bad (or in the case of molested children - some stupid, fucking loser finds the only way he can get power and prey on the weak for his depraved desires).
And if I were running the World, I would remove charities as tax exempt organizations immediately, except those branches of them that help the poor, the needy, etc. (like the Salvation Army). Otherwise, if a religion cannot make it on it's own, let it die.
Religion is for the weak and/or the ignorant and/or the desperate.
Ax3C
Banned
And I agree wholeheartedly with this ... not only because it's true (from my perspective), but because this very thing happened to me not so very long ago.
The only thing that kept me relatively sane and from committing suicide was my belief in my faith (God, Jesus, Alpha, Omega, however you want to say it) and in myself.
TO EACH HIS OR HER OWN.
For those who are deriding and making fun of religion, take a long, hard look at yourselves. It's okay that you don't believe. I'm certainly not going to try and convert you ... it ain't my place, first off. Faith and spirituality is a very intensely personal choice and it's not for me or anyone else to ram-rod or bum's-rush our way into that part of your life.
You want to sit and judge us (Christians and believers as a whole) based upon our beliefs and faith, but yet when we (Christians and believers as a whole) dare to stand up and speak for ourselves, you shout us down even more and continue to mock us.
I make no judgments based upon an individual's beliefs or religious preference. No, instead, I choose to formulate my opinion based upon their character, their morals (and yes, you can have morals WITHOUT being religious), their attitude towards others, and how they live their life. The true test of a person's character is their tolerance of each other.
My best friend is an atheist. And I love him to death, too. I've known him for twenty-odd years and I can confidently say that I would willingly surrender my life for him and him for me. BROTHERHOOD. Being a Christian, yes ... I will admit to being concerned, but that doesn't give me the unmitigated gall or right to intrude upon his life and what he feels is right for himself. He does what he does for himself. And I do the same. We've been friends for twenty-seven years now ... I kinda think we're long past that "road-block".
The same applies for EVERYONE. Take a look at yourselves first before you condemn others for what they believe in. Once you do that, get back to me and we'll have an intelligent discourse on whatever you please.
I'm sick of hearing religion being trashed by people. Let's just all friggin' agree to goddamned disagree, okay?
JESUS.
And no, McRocket ... I wasn't responding to your post!!! LMFAO
That's the thing. I think it is not unusual for people to believe when this feeling of loneliness strikes them. Therefore you can have your god for the tough times to come.
I think opposing to the organised religion is a thing you "should" do without this quote:
But you might need it to accompany this one:
Have you ever felt wrecked (maybe not, it doesn't happen very often),
{like this, I guess
}
without a god what did you do?
Maybe got some help for friends or family; imagine not having them, then wouldn't a god fill the void?
Of course, I see that you can't believe in god as it seems irrational, like a bad "we're in it for the money" Hollywood movie, but what is your solution for those who feel the need of a god?
Do you know what goes on?, If we are an ant farm? as mentioned before in the thread.
You don't like a movie, but you're in the cinema, won't you choose one?
That's why I don't think it's for the weak, ignorant or desperate; who's not ignorant?
So I think you can see religion as a hobby or sth you like,
like "heavy metal", where you receive help from the soundwaves and the society that surrounds them.
However, about the organised religion, ok this thing sucks.
Sorry man, misunderstanding, I wasn't replying to your message (I was replying to McRocket's one), I just used your quote in order to show that someone else is talking about being wrecked (I have felt bad at times, maybe not wrecked, but I was trying to show that shit happens and great stress might grow on you).
And as I see, what you're saying are not opposed to what I say (but on the contrary I thought that your first post was helping me make my point clear), I'm talking about the need to believe so you can relax, I do not believe in god (I'd rather say: I don't know, and that should be my belief), but I used to and after I stopped believing in him, because of unimportant -at the moment- reasons, there have been times where I thought that he could be out there helping me out.
Again, I'm sorry, not because of saying anything about you, but because of being careless with the way I present my views I made you so angry, and I really know how bad it is if something so personal is disapproved, I wouldn't do such a thing, cause I'm too very touchie with those things.
Please reply, tell me if we're clear
EDIT - I have a rather 'funny' way of saying things, and I see that this led to that misunderstaning.
I might say them in such a way but I'm deadly serious.
Ax3C
Banned
Cool. And I apologize as well. I've already asked AFA and Aegis to delete my reply. :thumbsup:
I DO NOT blame those people. That is why I typed: 'Religion is for the weak and/or the ignorant and/or the desperate.'
If I am taught that 2 + 2 = 3 then that does not make me stupid, just ignorant.
I didn't mention it clearly, but I was talking about the blame and the ignorance (in bold).
I didn't understand your opinion at first but now I see that my opinion is the same with yours.
P.S.: I saw that you're replying to fox, but it is enough for a reply to me as well.
All of my immediate family is either dead or has disowned me. Sure it was painful when my last two siblings said adiós. But you get over it.
And friends? If you go through life with one good friend then I say you are doing great. Friends are humans. Which means they have insecurities and fears that probably they do not even know about. And you never know when one of those fears pops up and wreaks havoc to your friendship.
Enjoy other people? Sure. Take what they have to offer you. And offer them back what you feel like. But count on them never. If they help you when you are down; put one in the plus column for them. If they turn on you; put one in the negative column for them. But NEVER depend on them. If you do, you are a fool. And you will eventually, probably be disappointed.
Learn to depend on yourself. Because at the end of the day, yourself is all you can count on no matter what.
People have to learn to stop depending on others for their feelings of self worth. Look inside yourself, deep. For only you can really know what's there. I bet you that somewhere inside all those phobias you will find a good person. But a person that probably got hurt over and over again from those they cared about. And it tainted you. Hurt you. Made you bitter or something negative.
Just forgive them (because they in turn were undoubtedly hurt by others also) and forgive yourself and try to do the best that you can. And when you hurt someone, never forget it. Don't abuse yourself over it, but never forget it.
Religion is for people - IMO - that are still too dependent on others for their feelings of self worth. And since they cannot find others to tell them that they are loved or are good. Then they look to sources that will never disappoint them - religious ones that can never be disproved - because there is absolutely no factual proof that they ever existed in the forms claimed by their followers. How simple and painless to be loved by something that can never be proven to not be there?
And as for religion saving people from suicide? Fine. Power to it. But there are many other things that stop people from jumping out of windows: porn, work, love, hobbies, sports, family, music, sex. The list is almost endless.
But in the end, few of these things have been used to justify the abuse and killing of millions upon millions of people.
No. As far as I am concerned. Religion has done WAY more harm then good.
And as long as people in major religions keep using guilt and fear and praying on the weak to get converts - then they will not only continue to have my pity. But also my disgust.
Sorry **********. 2+2 always equals 4 (though I am sure some physicist could argue otherwise). Just because these people choose to believe it equals 3 does not mean it does. It just means they believe it does.
If you take two apples. And you add two apples. You have 4 apples. Now if someone has skewed someone's brain so much that they actually see 3 apples - fine. But that is as the result of brainwashing. It just means their reality now sees 3. But there are 4 apples. That IS the reality.
To state otherwise is wrong. Not from their perspective. maybe. But it is still wrong.
Yes, if they look at 4 apples and call them 3, they ARE ignorant. Ignorant of the fact that their ARE 4 apples there.
They can justify their position all they want to. I have known my share of cults. And they can find some VERY imaginative ways to call those 4 apples as 3.
But it changes nothing. They are ignorant to reality.
And the old 'reality is what you make it' line is, to me, usually just someone who does not want to see the truth and is using a means to justify their own position.
I agree with you.
But at the last part of your reply you're talking about the solution, I guess it is called 'the meaning of life' (which is also a very nice Monty Python movie).
There was a time when I was saying to myself that I'm a christian, so I kind of had a meaning of life.
Now my only meaning of life is to find one.
I think that you suggest that the meaning of life is to be happy, to have a nice time time living it, to feel in harmony with your surroundings. (this is an assumption, it may be wrong)
This is nice, of course, and my friends and people who talk to about these things tend to have a similar view.
But; I don't want this to be enough. I want to know what goes on.
I don't think I'm the only one, I guess most of the people want to know that.
However, as knowing what goes on seems impossible most people put this thing on the back of their mind and keep walking with 'being happy' in their lifes.
My view (I have never met or read about anyone who has the same view -or maybe I wasn't paying attention-): "I don't want to care about being happy, I want to care only about the truth" -I guess this is impractical-. If you asked me if I would give away my life for the truth, I would have told you that I would. It really bothers me that I don't know everything (as you see I use don't instead of using can't, and that's how I avoid suicide
).What do you think about it?
P.S.: It could seem that this is off topic but god belief is accompanied by a meaning of life.
In a previous post I said that I agree with McRocket that they're ignorant,
but I haven't mentioned that I think I'm ignorant too.
However, in this level, all being ignorant and none being ignorant is the same thing.
We live in a world we don't understand (or is it only me?).
I believe that everything is possible, so, ignorance is relative.
Re: God Belief
I believe in God 100%. I just don't believe in organized religion.
I believe in God 100%. I just don't believe in organized religion.
Re: God Belief
What happened a divine intervention to split the thread in two?
What happened a divine intervention to split the thread in two?
dick van cock
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Re: God Belief
I believe in Mod!!! :bowdown:What happened a divine intervention to split the thread in two?
The following is part of the definition of 'ignorant' from Merriam-Webster's online dictionary:
'IGNORANT may imply a general condition or it may apply to lack of knowledge or awareness of a particular thing'.
If they are calling 4 apples, 3. Then they are ignorant to the awareness of the 4'th apple.
They are ignorant to it's existence.
Yes, it is.
If these people believe in a god because they have been fed misinformation as fact. Then they are basing that belief on untruths. Which means the basis for their beliefs does not exist. Therefore they are ignorant to the fact that their basis of belief does not truly exist.
Yes, we are all ignorant about many things.
And these particular people are ignorant as to the unreality of the basis of their belief in their god (as described in my example above).
And, btw, I am not typing that God does not exist. I am typing that major religions have done way more harm then good.
Just because there is no factual proof to back up major religious claims does not mean they are wrong. It just means they are unproven.
And to base your life on an unproven is not always wise.
And if that unproven tells you to do bad things in it's name; then it is wrong.
That is my problem with religion.
Believe in ice cream for all I care. Just don't use it as justification to do harm to others in any way.
Re: God Belief
This is the Zombie jesus thread,and In that vain just for amusement I offer the following.
http://www.imagebeaver.com/files4/i/d36/saf4686cbde4f379.png
This is the Zombie jesus thread,and In that vain just for amusement I offer the following.
http://www.imagebeaver.com/files4/i/d36/saf4686cbde4f379.png
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